Meet the Author: Karen Sue Burns

Greetings y’all, I’m Karen Sue Burns, hailing from the big city of Houston, Texas which just so happens to be the initial setting of my debut romantic suspense novel, IN HOT PURSUIT. The location then moves to Las Vegas followed by Rome, Italy which tells you one thing — I love to travel! Visit my website at to view photos of some of my favorite places.

I will admit that Rome is my favorite city. It even beats out Rio de Janeiro and the inspirational Sugarloaf. Country wise, Ireland is probably at the top of the list due to the Irish people. Of any country I’ve visited, they seem the most similar to Americans. The main difference is their accent, which is very sexy on the male side of the population.

Anyway, I love to write and romance particularly because of the happy endings full of hope and new beginnings. The writing affliction started as a child, went into remission while I raised a family, then came back in full force when my youngest child left for college. At the time, I knew absolutely nothing about writing craft but I was motivated to fulfill a hankering I’d buried for twenty-five years. I set about learning as much as I could.

I chose to be easy on myself with my first story and decided on a plot line I know something about  — working for a university, accounting, and travel. I imagined the absolutely worst thing that could happen to my employer and the basic plot for IN HOT PURSUIT was born.

My heroines are regular people, no special skills at fighting crime or taking down bad guys. Yet, they manage to do just that using their smarts and being logical, creative, and focused. In one word, they have moxie. I love writing about the Everywoman character doing extraordinary things. Yep, they can kick butt when necessary. Quinn Wells, the star of IN HOT PURSUIT, exemplifies this type of character.

A bit about IN HOT PURSUIT:

When $25 million is stolen from her employer, a relationship-phobic accountant hunts for the thief alongside a handsome bachelor who falls for her.

Quinn Wells considers her life as it should be—calm, relaxed, and free of relationship entanglements. The theft of a twenty-five millions dollar gift to her employer, Houston Cullen University, throws her life into over drive as she’s appointed to work with the police. The search for the thief becomes complicated as she’s accompanied by Logan Rice, the donor of the gift.

Distrustful and wondering if Quinn is the thief, Logan accompanies her on a trip to Las Vegas and then to Rome, in pursuit of Quinn’s co-worker who she rationalizes is responsible. Logan has financial resources that enhance their search and he soon realizes Quinn is innocent. This only makes her more attractive to him, emotionally and physically.

As they race from city to city, Logan is determined to win over Quinn and convince her they have a chance as a couple. But Logan’s wealth and social position are the opposite of Quinn’s middle class life, and he devastates her by withholding information about his past. Yet she soon discovers what is most important to her, and that is Logan.

Karen Sue Burns writes romantic suspense and mystery featuring feisty heroines who find themselves embroiled in risky situations full of adventure and sexy heroes.


Don’t give up

When I tell people that I’m a writer, I usually get one of two responses. The first is congratulatory on being published. The second is that it isn’t a big deal because anyone can be a writer.

Irving Thalberg, the famed Hollywood producer said, “What’s there to being a writer? You just put one word in front of the other?” He didn’t believe that screenwriters should get credit for anything. To this day, I see Hollywood doing little to honor book authors and screen writers. They are paid less than their worth. After all, there wouldn’t be a movie without plot and story. Actors get millions while writers get crumbs.

In the publishing world , a few authors make the best seller lists and gain critical acclaim as well as comfortable bank accounts. Celebrity and political stars get the lucrative contracts, employing ghostwriters who do the work without the credit. Struggling writers just get form rejection letters from secretaries.

Welcome to the world of being a writer and author.

The writer’s world isn’t easy. It’s a constant challenge wrought with perseverance, hours of labor, constant rejection and criticism. There are few “overnight successes” and paying dues by working one’s way up the ladder is a way of life.

I’ve been paying my dues for more years than I’d like to admit. I write because I have to. Writing is as natural and as necessary as breathing. It’s something I have done my entire life. From creating picture books for classmates in elementary school to crafting short romance novels for friends in high school, from pounding out 400 page manuscripts on my old Smith Corona manual typewriter in college to staying up until 4am when I had to get up at 6am for work, I have been writing.

Years later I was able to leave the corporate world (in sales and marketing) and pursue my craft full time. I began by writing articles for a small local newspaper. It was a learning experience in how to conduct interviews, crafting stories on varied topics, working with editors and editing copy. I even won a small press award for a profile. Using that experience, I moved up to writing for trade publications. I learned that having a specialty helps. I used my expertise in antique safes and vaults to regularly write about them and had my articles featured on the cover of an international trade magazine. I branched out to architecture, construction and design where I was the lead writer for a local trade magazine.

I progressed from writer to author. Utilizing my experience and connections, I was selected to write a local history book. When the coordinator left, I was commissioned to coordinate publication of the book as well.

Having experience, a web presence and networking led to my being contacted by an established New England publisher to write the text for a local photographic history book. Out of three authors considered, I won the job. I had two weeks to pour over photographs, research and write captions as well as create all of the text found in the book and on its cover. An additional week was for editing. Thus, my first hardcover coffee table book with a “real” publisher was for sale. Cleveland Ohio, A Photographic Portrait has been a steady seller. It’s being sold all over the City of Cleveland and even in other states and countries.

Writing women’s fiction novels has always been my joy. I joined Romance Writers of America, regularly met with a critique group and kept submitting and submitting to literary agents and editors. I received many “good” rejections. I knew that it wasn’t my writing but the fact than my plots were too unusual for a new author in a publishing world where the powers-that-be seem to want the same thing over and over.

I never gave up. Through the years, I met writers who were amazing literary geniuses with more talent than I can ever imagine. However, they gave up writing because rejection was too intimidating.

If you want something bad enough you don’t give up.

The world of electronic book publishing has changed the business of writing. More opportunities abound. Publishing avenues have opened beyond the traditional agent to editor submission process.

My first e-novel, Paradise Found, a multicultural romance set in the exotic Seychelles Islands was published by a small press. I learned about the new electronic book world.

With Crimson Romance, my favorite novels have found a home with the backing of a large publishing house. I have learned even more about he electronic world, about social media and promotion utilizing my marketing degree and experience.

My first romance with Crimson is Lab Test. This is a book-of-the-heart. It’s a humorous paranormal with a twist. The heroine is turned into a black Labrador Retriever who is adopted by the hero. Both learn the value of unconditional love and trust, both as dog and master and as a human pair. If you love dogs, especially black Labs, as I do, you will be able to relate to this adult fairy tale. Available for pre-order at Amazon and I-Tunes, the novel will be released June 4 as part of Crimson Romance’s debut. I love the cover because it captures the essence of the story. Who can resist a Lab?

My advice is to never give up. If there is something that you would like to pursue, like being a writer-author, go for it. The journey may be long and hard but it’s the destination that counts. I’m not there yet but I’m having fun and moving up that ladder one rung at a time!

Nancy Loyan Schuemann

Lady in Red – Elizabeth Meyette

Introduce yourself, please (name you write under). Is this a pen or personal name? Why did you make the choice to write under that name?

I am Elizabeth Meyette, the author of Love’s Destiny, a historical romance which is due out as an ebook on June 4. Love’s Destiny was an IMC (In My Closet) book for a long time until I retired from teaching to pursue my passion for writing.  I will be published under my own name, although I had considered a nom de plume: Evelyn Mercereau.  It’s a combination of my mother’s first name and my great-grandmother’s surname, and I think it’s an awesome nom de plume for a romance writer.  But, alas, there are other books titled Love’s Destiny and I didn’t want friends and family to order the wrong book, so I decided to use my own name.

Tell us about your family and where you live.

I grew up in upstate New York, the product of a large Irish/Catholic family, and now I live in Michigan with my beloved husband, Rich who is my biggest supporter. We have three grown children who are successful adults off doing their own things. Kate and her husband Todd live in Michigan, Matt and Rachel live in Iowa, and Kristin and Tedd live in Houston and are the parents of our two grandchildren, Tommy and Molly. (There oughta be a law about moving grandchildren out-of-state!)

 What have you done other than writing?

In order to pursue my writing career, I retired earlier than I had planned from teaching secondary English and journalism. During my career in education I also did a stint as a school Media Specialist (Librarian), and everyday I could share my love for books and literature with my students. I was constantly surrounded by great writing which, in a way, was frustrating since I wanted to be writing, too, and now I am.  Am I blessed or what? I send up prayers of gratitude every day that I can devote my time to writing.

The best part about my writing life is:

The best part of my writing life is that I have so much time to write. Now I can dedicate entire days to my writing, stay up all night if the muse is at work, and work in my pajamas which I have done! Also, I am fascinated by the process. I love to put a couple of characters in a room and just let them start talking. I just record what they say, and often when I reread it to edit or revise it’s like reading it for the first time. Every writer has a her own process; some like to outline the story, some like to tack up photos of people who look like their characters, and some just sit down and write. Someone said do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.  I agree, and I am living proof.

The worst part about my writing life is:

The hardest part of my writing life is that I don’t have enough time. I know that sounds like a paradox based on my previous respons, but I am still looking for the most effective and efficient way to structure my day.  I can’t believe how hours fly by as I work and suddenly it’s dinner time or I forgot about the laundry and it sat in the washer overnight.  I guess if that’s the worst thing about my writing life, I have plenty to be thankful for.

Tell us about one—just one—physical characteristic and one secret passion.

If I had to choose one specific physical characteristic to mention about myself, I would say my voice; more than once people I haven’t seen in years have said they recognize me by my voice. This leads to my secret passion: singing.  I love to sing, and I belong to a community chorale, sing at our church, sing when I’m cleaning house, sing in the shower, sing when someone says a phrase which in any way evokes a song I know. Singing a solo on stage at our center for the arts is on my bucket list. Oh, perhaps this isn’t so secret after all now.

Tell us one thing about yourself you’d never change.

One thing about myself that I would never change is my thirst for knowledge.  I’ve always said that if I win the lotto, I would become a full-time student studying comparative religions, philosophy and other important-in-life topics.

 If you didn’t live where you do, where would you live? Why?

My husband and I love to travel, and I’m not sure I have found the ideal place to live yet. We have a cottage on a Great Lakes that we love in the summer and visit warm places in our timeshares in the winter. But we also love Ireland and Europe and hope to visit there again.  I guess it depends on our mood, but I know it would be near a large body of water.

Do you write about where you live or where you’d like to live?

I haven’t set Love’s Destiny in any of places I just mentioned.  The story is based in the area around Jamestown and colonial Williamsburg, Virginia because I had just visited there when I started writing the book and I was fascinated by its historical significance. I was captured by the rich history and the stories behind the early days of our nation.  I found it romantic in every sense of the word, and I loved researching the architecture, politics, fashion and culture of this time period.

What’s the first creative writing you remember doing outside a class?

My third grade teacher affirmed my writing talent, and I think I was hooked from then on.  My first poem, “Song of an Invalid”, was published in my junior year in high school. In college I tended more toward journalism, writing for the college newpaper, but my first love has always been creative writing. I don’t remember specific writing I did outside of school, but I remember that my nose was always in a book. One of my most treasured gifts was the complete set of Sherlock Holmes that my father gave me when I was thirteen.  I still have that.

Why do you write romance novels?

I actually wrote Love’s Destiny on a dare.  My friend was an avid romance reader and kept encouraging me to read her Kathleen Woodiwiss novels. Finally, I caved, read one, and fell in love with love stories.  Not wanting to appear too easy a convert, I jokingly said to her, “I could write a romance novel.” She challenged me with, “Then do it.” Thus the birth of Love’s Destiny. But it’s been a long labor and delivery! I like writing romance because one of the strongest emotions we feel is that crazy, senseless impulse that makes us act like we’re out of our minds when we fall in love. It is a physical pulling of one heart toward another that no one can resist, and that can be revisited on the pages of a romance novel. And I like happy endings because life is complicated, sometimes difficult, sometimes sad, so read a book with hope.

What else do you write?

I also write and have published poetry.  Again I think it is the emotion behind the writing that attracts me. I have begun a contemporary novel, but I am not sure what genre it will fall under. When the story came to me I thought it might be paranormal, but I will have to wait until my divine attendant spirit, as Elizabeth Gilbert calls it, inspires me to write more. Also, I recently submitted my first children’s book for publication.

What one thing from your book did you take from personal experience?

One thing  in my novel that I took from personal experience was my main character Emily’s willingness to change her point of view when she learned all the facts.  I like to think I am open-minded enough to learn and grow and change based on information and experiences that I encounter.

What did you cut from your book that felt like severing a body part?

Even though my manuscript was a little longer than Crimson Romance was asking for, I didn’t have to cut much of it.  Nothing that was traumatic.  My biggest editing task was revising point of view. I tend to want to write what all my characters are thinking at the same time, so revising for consistent POV was my biggest challenge. No body parts were severed in the publication of this novel.

Do you identify closely with one particular character? How?

While I would like to say that I most identify with Emily, I think I really am more like Joanna, Jonathon’s sister.  As my daughter pointed out, she is the voice of reason in the book.

Give us a hint about what the next book’s like.

Friends who have read Love’s Destiny are clamoring for a sequel, and there are enough plot lines to make that possible.  Of course Emily and Jonathon’s story will continue along with Deidre’s wicked attempts at reclaiming Jonathon.  Since the American Revolution is just beginning, some of the conflict is built right in for many characters.  Andrew, Emily’s younger brother is becoming a man, so who knows what might happen in his life… I am in the process of writing Love’s Spirit and hope it will be ready to submit this fall.

Torn between her love for Jonathon Brentwood, a patriot, and her loyalty to England, Emily Wentworth must decide her destiny.

Meet the Ladies in Red — Heather Thurmeier

Author Heather Thurmeier

Introduce yourself, please.

My name is Heather Thurmeier. I write contemporary romance. I was born and raised in the Canadian prairies but now I live in upstate New York with my own personal romance hero (aka my hubs), my kids and an adventurous King Charles Cavalier named Indiana Jones (Indy for short).

What’s your secret passion?

Besides writing, of course? Riding horses. If I could spend my free time (when I’m on mom’s time off and not writing!) I’d love to ride horses. For a brief time in high school, I took English riding lessons and even got to jump once. It was amazing. I hope to get back into riding again someday.

Tell us one thing about yourself you’d never change.

My sense of humor. It enters into so many aspects of my life and my writing.

If you didn’t live where you do, where would you live? Why?

I’d totally live in Maui. It’s where we went on our honeymoon and if we wouldn’t have missed our families so much, we would have stayed forever. The island life agreed with us. We loved being outside, exploring the island, sunsets over the water were nothing short of magical and the weather was perfect. My hair has never felt so soft and luxurious as it did while on the island!

Do you write about where you live or where you’d like to live?

Both. I often write about the New York area because I’m familiar with it. But sometimes my character just don’t want to tell their story from here. So in those times, I do a lot of research about the new place. I look up tourism information, businesses, and even real estate listing. I love the research!

What’s the first creative writing you remember doing outside a class? 

I think I’ve always written poetry at home on my own time. Or at least I did when I was young. I can’t say as I’ve written any poetry in many years.

Why do you write romance novels?

Because I’m a sucker for a happy ending. There’s nothing that tweaks my heart strings more than seeing an old married couple holding hands or eating dinner together. There’s something so incredible about a love that can stand the test of time. I feel blessed everyday that fate stepped in and connected me to my husband. I wouldn’t be the person I am today if it weren’t for him. Writing romance allows me to give that to other people, even if it’s only characters in my books.

What else do you write?

Mostly I write contemporary romances, but I’ve also started a series of paranormal romances (not yet published).

What one thing from your book did you take from personal experience?

My book, Falling for You, coming from Crimson Romance in August, is about a girl who goes on a reality dating show. I’ve never been on a reality show of any kind, but I am a huge fan. I’ve watched all kinds of different shows and I drew on that to tell this story. I always imagined what happened behind the scenes with my favorite reality show stars. Writing this book let me play out what I imagine it might be like.

Also, the horse back riding in the book is from my past experiences with horses. I love going for a trail rides.

What did you cut from your book that felt like severing a body part?

Nothing. Honestly, every cut made my book stronger, better, and more enjoyable and that’s what I want to give my readers. Every word I cut I still have on my computer in an original version, so it’s not like I had to part with the words forever. And really, they’re just words. In the end, I’m thrilled with the way Falling for You turned out and I’m so excited for people to get a chance to read it!

Do you identify closely with one particular character? How?

I identify a lot with the main character Cassidy. She really puts herself in a position where she’s not comfortable and because of that, she falls in love and finds her happily ever after. Moving to the States with my boyfriend (now husband) was terrifying and totally out of my comfort zone. But I’m glad I took the chance to do it. If I’d been too afraid to move with him, I would have missed out on this life I have now.

The best part about my writing life is:

Getting to tell the stories I want to tell how I want to tell them. It’s just me, my imagination and my computer.

The worst part about my writing life is:

Not having unlimited time each day to write as much as I want. I still have kids, a husband, a dog and a house to take of too. Sometimes it can be tricky to balance it all.

Give us a hint about what the next book’s like.

In Stuck with You, we get to follow Paige as she goes on another reality show where she has to work with her team mate to find geocaches to win the grand prize—but she didn’t expect to find love on the show too.

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Meet Lady in Red: Lilou DuPont

My romance novel is Dangerous Love. It will be available in 2012.

1. Introduce yourself, please (name you write under). Is this a pen or personal name? Why did you make the choice to write under that name?

Lilou DuPont. It is a pen name. Lilou is a newly popular French name and not completely all over the Internet. DuPont is after Dupont Circle in Washington, DC. A hub for people from all walks of life.

2. Let’s get the details out of the way: Single, married, divorced, widowed?



No. I have five nieces and one nephew.

Living where?

In Washington, DC. The name of my neighborhood is Foggy Bottom. I am eight blocks away from The White House.

Doing what, other than writing?

I sell advertising.

One—just one—physical characteristic


3. What’s your secret passion?

Java Chip Frappucino®. Hey, it helps me to write!

4. Tell us one thing about yourself you’d never change.

My independence.

5. If you didn’t live where you do, where would you live? Why?

New York City or Paris. I love big cities. New York for its grit and anything goes atmosphere. Paris because it is Paris.

6. Do you write about where you live or where you’d like to live?

I write about Eastern Europe! I am not sure that I would ever want to live there, but I have visited several times to research settings. Very inspiring!

7. What’s the first creative writing you remember doing outside a class?

My first feature length screenplay, based on my experience of falling for a car thief.

8. Why do you write romance novels?

I write in the Spicy subgenre. The sex is romantic, edgy, imaginative, metaphoric to the theme of the book, dangerous . . . I have no idea why! My main objective is to tell an entertaining story, to take the reader on a journey that ends very happily.

9. What else do you write?

Dangerous Love is my first book. I have written screenplays, song lyrics, plays, & short stories.

10. What one thing from your book did you take from personal experience?

My novel is based on a random encounter I had in Prague with a man whose grandfathers had been in the German SS.

11. What did you cut from your book that felt like severing a body part?

The last chapter—when Laura introduces Byron (the son of a Nazi) to her father (Jewish, traditional)—was very difficult for me to write. I basically journaled it for an entire summer. Then, one day in September, while on a train from NY to DC, I realized that I had just written my ending! I threw out all of the journaling.

12. Do you identify closely with one particular character? How?

While the heroine is based on me, I also identify with Leo, who makes a student film about blowing up the Prague Castle. I, too, attended film school. Leo is me, in my early twenties.

13. The best part about my writing life is: Realizing a vision.

14. The worst part about my writing life is: Preferring the company of my characters to that of actual people. Did I really say that?

15. Give us a hint about what the next book’s like.

Going deeper into Eastern Europe. I am working on a super sexy spy romance set in Bucharest, Romania. Vampires? No. Gypsies? Yes.

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Lady in Red – Amanda L. V. Shalaby

1. Introduce yourself, please (name you write under). Is this a pen or personal name? Why did you make the choice to write under that name? 

My name is Amanda L. V. Shalaby and I am the author of the historical romance, Rhianna. I decided to write under my personal name for multiple reasons, but mostly because this particular novel was… well… so very personal!  It is inspired and dedicated to my grandmother, Catherine M. Fisher, and I just couldn’t see writing this story for her as an alter ego.
2. Let’s get the details out of the way: Single, married, divorced, widowed? Parent? Living where?
I have been married for 7 years to my wonderful husband, Matt.  We have three furry “kids”: Two Shih Tzu dogs, Huntley Rochester & Isabella Jane (yes, those middle names are after Jane Eyre), and a Persian cat named Sebastian. We live just outside of New York City.

3. What’s your secret passion?
Actually, for a long time, writing was my secret passion.  I spent years writing whole novels for myself and never shared them with anyone. I was always very private about my writing, but I’m glad that I came around and decided to start sharing my stories with others.

4. What’s the first creative writing you remember doing outside a class?
When I was 14-years-old, I had this fantastic dream about a world in the vein of Narnia.  I woke up the next morning determined to write it down as a YA short story. I realized then that I was not very good at writing short stories.  My first full-length novel was born.
5. Why do you write romance novels?
I never intended to write romance, actually.  It is only because of my grandmother’s life-long desire to write a historical romance that I began to write one for her. Now, I see the light!
6. What else do you write?
I think I’ve written a novel in pretty much every genre. I finally found a common theme, though – I really love researching different time periods. Not single story I’ve ever written has been from the same time period.
7. What did you cut from your book that felt like severing a body part?
Rhianna was very long.  To cut it down, a couple of chapters were axed detailing events in her childhood. The really important back story was worked in to the current version, though, and I’m really glad to say I like it better than the original!
8. The best part about my writing life is:
I think the best part about my writing life is I can easily entertain myself! Long line at the DMV?  Sitting around all day for jury duty?  Long plane flights? No problem!
9. The worst part about my writing life is:
Definitely, the worst part about my writing life is not having enough time to write.

10. Give us a hint about what the next book’s like.
I feel a very strong connection to the families in Rhianna, and I’ve begun working on a sequel that follows them through the next several years after Rhianna ends.  I’m really excited about it!  If you want to know more, I’ll be regularly updating my blog or look me up on Facebook or Twitter.

Introducing…Kristina Knight

1. Introduce yourself, please (name you write under). Is this a pen or personal name? Why did you make the choice to write under that name? Hi, everyone! My name is Kristina Knight, a debut author with Crimson Romance. Yes, that is my real name. I decided a long time ago that the capital K’s in my name would look pretty on a cover…and I was right! Plus, now I don’t have to remember yet another name – I’ve got about 7 already. There’s Kristina (and a variety of nicknames), Mom (and its vast iterations), Babe (from RadioMan), and the list goes on.

2. Let’s get the details out of the way: Single, married, divorced, widowed? Parent? Living where? Doing what, other than writing? One—just one—physical characteristic

I’m married to RadioMan and the stork dropped off bebe to us almost 4 years ago. She likes it when I tell everyone I had the shortest, best pregnancy ever: there was no labor (well, of the physical, sweaty, painful sort), it started at noon on  a Monday and she was delivered at 3pm that same afternoon. We live on the North Coast of Ohio and I spend most of my days writing at the computer. And, so my rear end doesn’t become as large as the seat of my comfy chair, I teach aqua aerobics classes at our local YMCA, take Zumba classes and walk. A lot. I have auburn hair and green eyes and not a lick of Irish blood in my system. German and English, yes. Go figure.

3. Why do you write romance novels? I love romance novels, have since I was a teen and probably shouldn’t have been reading them. My first romance was a YA novel called PS I Love You. It was filled with teen angst and death and cancer and a more tragic than happily ever after ending. I remember as I read it thinking I would have done it differently. I would have allowed Mariah to have her happy ending with Paul, even though she learned more from the unhappy finish. But that’s me: I like the happy. The struggle through life’s little surprises may make us stronger, but I like that struggle to have a solid, happy ending, too. So that’s what I write.

4. Do you identify closely with one particular character? How? In What a Texas Girl Wants, my debut book, I really identified with Kathleen because she has a firm idea of where she thinks she needs to be. I spent a lot of years trying to follow the path I thought my parents and friends and professors wanted me to take. It wasn’t a bad road, it just wasn’t the road I truly wanted to be on. Now that I’m on my own path I’m so much happier. That’s the journey Kathleen takes in the story, a journey of self-fulfillment and true love. I hope you all love Jackson and Kathleen as much as I love them.

5. Give us a hint about what the next book’s like. My second Crimson Romance is out later this fall and is (tentatively) titled The Saint’s Devilish Deal. It features an injured surfer and a wound-too-tightly B&B manager and a lovely destination, Puerto Vallarta.

Anyway, that is the Cliff’s Notes version of my writing life. I’m so excited to be part of the Crimson Romance family! If you want to know even more about me, stop by my website or look me up on Facebook or Twitter.